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Created on: 8/21/2013 3:24:49 AM Last Update: 8/21/2013 3:27:57 AM Posted by: RTT WARNING: This entry is 4235 days old. It may contain broken links, out-dated or misleading content. Please read on with caution.
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The Bond kings have been schooled
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Bill Gross and Jeffrey Gundlach are magnificent bond fund managers, they are known as the bond kings. Recently, both bond kings have suffered large redemptions within their bond funds as losses are realized due to interest rates rising.
However those that follow cycles would have placed in their 2013 playbook that the forecast for interest rates was up due to a cycle bottom expected mid 2013. When price action supports the cycle you must respect the cycle. This time it is very different as the impulse move from the low for interest rates has been spectacular and suggest there is more to go. 3.25% is an easy target.
The following cycle was determined by the RTT Cycle Finder Spectrum and What If tools.
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The funny thing is that, the only buyer of bonds is the US Federal Reserve, every other major participant is a net sellers of US paper. Every newsletter writer has been touting the risk of breaking the 30 year trend trend line from 1982, so you have to guess if that line is to be defended more buyers will be needed to buy US paper along with the FED. Q: How can you get more folks to buy US paper? A: Have a market crash or serious correction to force a flight to safety from stocks to bonds. Just saying!

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..."There is what I call the behaviour of a stock, actions that enable you to judge whether or not it is going to proceed in accordance with the precedents that your observation has noted. If a stock doesn’t act right don’t touch it, because, being unable to tell precisely what is wrong, you cannot tell which way it is going."...
Jesse Livermore
..."The four most dangerous words in investing are 'This time it's different' "...
John Templeton
.."To cause high prices, all the Fed will do will be to lower the re discount rate..., producing an expansion of credit and a rising stock market; then when, business men are adjusted to these conditions, it can check, prosperity in mid career by arbitrarily raising the rate of interest. It can cause the pendulum of a rising and falling market to swing gently back and forth by slight changes in the discount rate, or cause violent fluctuations by a greater rate variation and in either case it will possess inside information as to financial conditions and advance knowledge of the coming change, either up or down. This is the most dangerous advantage ever placed in the hands of a special privilege class by any Government that ever existed. The are private, conducted for the purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money. They know in advance when to create panics to their advantage, and when to stop panic."...
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